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Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)EmeraldfinGI Supporter
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Posted on 2014-06-17 15:00:17

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That does sound like it might work better. Though have many Irish teams gone bot who could have sold a potential star early off? The other issue is whether or not it would be handy to get people involved in how Irish foreign players are being trained. Obviously we can't dictate it but it might be useful if we could suggest that a player would have a higher chance of getting into the squad as a WR or whatever.



Surprisingly, not many Irish teams have come through over the past 12-18 months. But, what could be done then is just scroll through Atlantic Division 5 3/4 times a year for any new teams and just keeping note of who is out there. For any players, who get cut and stick around, keep an eye on the transfer market.

With the Irish community being so small, this is quite doable and would save quite abit of time. As someone who has trawled through every division when I was NT manager, it gets tiring very quickly.

I have already kept a note of all Irish team from Div 4 up from the Irish Rankings, which I fell behind and ceased with this season as I moved house, work, etc.
  
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Posted on 2014-06-17 15:21:04

Emeraldfin wrote:

Christy wrote:




That does sound like it might work better. Though have many Irish teams gone bot who could have sold a potential star early off? The other issue is whether or not it would be handy to get people involved in how Irish foreign players are being trained. Obviously we can't dictate it but it might be useful if we could suggest that a player would have a higher chance of getting into the squad as a WR or whatever.



Surprisingly, not many Irish teams have come through over the past 12-18 months. But, what could be done then is just scroll through Atlantic Division 5 3/4 times a year for any new teams and just keeping note of who is out there. For any players, who get cut and stick around, keep an eye on the transfer market.

With the Irish community being so small, this is quite doable and would save quite abit of time. As someone who has trawled through every division when I was NT manager, it gets tiring very quickly.

I have already kept a note of all Irish team from Div 4 up from the Irish Rankings, which I fell behind and ceased with this season as I moved house, work, etc.



That will be handy. I know I also have one player I sold that I want to keep an eye on as he develops.
  

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Posted on 2014-06-17 15:37:22
I've got a scouting thread stickied to the forum, but I haven't updated it this season and if only includes players playing for foreign teams. Not including the Irish players from Irish teams I feel was a mistake, as there are players out there who are better than what's on the current NT squad.

I don't know if you want to create another thread that you can control and have others contribute to it or keep it as is? Either way I don't mind.
  
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Posted on 2014-06-17 18:09:47
i can help out a small bit if needs be?
  
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Posted on 2014-06-17 19:49:31
Emeraldfin wrote:

I've got a scouting thread stickied to the forum, but I haven't updated it this season and if only includes players playing for foreign teams. Not including the Irish players from Irish teams I feel was a mistake, as there are players out there who are better than what's on the current NT squad.

I don't know if you want to create another thread that you can control and have others contribute to it or keep it as is? Either way I don't mind.



I would prefer a spreadsheet and give that to the incoming manager. I want to include up and coming players as well so to have multiple tabs for BPOS/wages so the manager knows who to look at immediately but can also check where we need up and coming players.

The other thing is that I want this to be a community project for several reasons. First it reduces workload, it reduces dependency on a single person who may get sidetracked by RL and finally it provides an in into the national side. New players coming along have an easy way to get involved without needing the responsibility of manager before they have the ins and outs to the game.

Later when I have time I will figure out how google docs works and figure my set up. Link can then be pm'd to interested managers.
  

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Posted on 2014-06-18 12:10:05
seanand wrote:

i can help out a small bit if needs be?



Definitely, Emerald Fin has made me think on the best way to advance. I reckon split teams between people and they can go through current roster and trades.

This is what I am thinking of, currently anyone can access and edit and so some data should not be put on it such as talent etc. If this format is to peoples liking and we can decide on workload split I will pm a link to the real version to managers who are helping out. As it isn't to the general public managers will hopefully be more forthcoming about caps and talent. I will also keep a third version completely private to me in case something goes belly up and we can start again having learnt a lesson.

The idea is that this should be a complete list, players are sorted by BPOS and put into the correct positional slot. Then these are listed from highest wage to lowest wage the exception being red marked players. Having a red backround indicates you are out of contention and only on the list so a future manager doesn't 'discover' them and waste a scout on them. Currently you get a red backround if you can't reach 4.5*BPOS but more conditions can be applied.

Yellow backround indicates that you can reach 4.5*BPOS and green is for those that can reach 5*BPOS. This should allow us to see talent coming through the ranks. Again conditions on physical caps can be imposed on this. White implies unknown max BPOS.

I used the current Irish squad as an example along with two of my own players and a fake one to demonstrate the system. A manager selecting a team can just look at the last two tabs. Realistically the rest are so we don't have to go looking for new 4.5*BPOS players every season, we just go through the lower tabs and see who moves to a higher tab. The information is then waiting for the new manager.

Red marked players should be kept on the list but I see no reason to update them. Green/yellow should be kept an eye on to see if we can help their development. It also means we know if we don't have a good TE coming through the ranks and we can try and get a yellow/green marked player BPOS in TE before the current ones retire.

Retired players can be removed.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KDvdZhvd_hy7YElJcdcFNsz6sBbyznH2_QopCwvJW-w/edit?usp=sharing

  

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Posted on 2014-06-19 11:06:35
That looks good to me mate. The only thing I would suggest is maybe having an indicator if a team is BOT or Active, as if they are BOT you know the player will not be progressing any further while on that team.

It would be ideal if you could get everyone to look after their own sides, but I don't see that happening as I think interest may be waning for some of the longer players.

But, I can only speak for myself and I'll be glad to help whatever way I can. Let me know when you want to get started on this.
  
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Posted on 2014-06-19 13:07:56
Link sent to Emeraldfin, fredcap and seanad. Enter your own teams (including transferred players).

If anyone else wants to help, or at least enter their own team's players, now is the time to say so. Otherwise I will start to divide up the remaining teams. I'm busy till the middle of next week so I will wait till then.
  

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Posted on 2014-06-19 13:27:37
i update both what you sent me and the one here ya?

anyone good with setting up site because we could set up an offsite and give access to irish managers we know and trust and then we could maybe track better? it works for other games im on but then there is bigger community of irish people on that
  
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Posted on 2014-06-19 13:33:22
seanand wrote:

i update both what you sent me and the one here ya?

anyone good with setting up site because we could set up an offsite and give access to irish managers we know and trust and then we could maybe track better? it works for other games im on but then there is bigger community of irish people on that



Just the one I sent you. It means managers can divulge caps and stuff without the information being released to the wider GI community. The one here is just a public sample of what is being done.

The organisation of the Irish community on said game with larger egg shaped ball, especially with regard training players for national squads is what inspired me to do this.
  

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