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NT Strength
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linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-01-11 13:19:18
The WC XXI is about to begin and we are curious to know who will be the world champions this season!

I was thinking about Elo Ratings and how much it represents the actual situation of each NT. The (incredibly good) work of ogie takes in account many seasons by an equal form. Some NT were performing really well 4 or 5 seasons ago, but now have poor performances and they are still in high ranks. Other problem is the number of matches played in qualifying phase that makes a 8-0 NTs (in 5 teams groups) "better" than 6-0 NTs (in 4 teams groups), for example. And there were no "rewards" for teams that qualifies for the latter stages of WC.

With all this in mind, I am testing a ranking that takes in account the last 2 WCs, with different weights (weight x 1 for WC XIX and weight x 2 for WC XX). I implemented a correction factor for qualifying phase (for 4 teams group) and 10% rating reward for every phase qualification, including the final.

My goal is not to substitute ogie ELO RANKING, but giving an alternative way to analyze NT strength instead. It may help some NT coaches to analyze their team evolution in the last few WC and give some light over the most probable contenders in each group/phase.

I hope that you all enjoy it!
  
linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-01-11 13:19:59
POS / NT / Strength

#1 SERBIA 1791
#2 SLOVAKIA 1781
#3 USA 1761
#4 GERMANY 1705
#5 ROMANIA 1575
#6 MEXICO 1378
#7 CROATIA 1352
#8 POLAND 1338
#9 AUSTRALIA 1302
#10 HUNGARY 1283
#11 UNITED KINGDOM 1275
#12 IRELAND 1270
#13 PORTUGAL 1200
#14 FINLAND 1184
#15 FRANCE 1162
#16 RUSSIA 1160
#17 NETHERLANDS 1151
#18 DENMARK 1139
#19 NEW ZEALAND 1125
#20 BRAZIL 1116
#21 SLOVENIA 1087
#22 SWEDEN 1057
#23 ITALY 1026
#24 AUSTRIA 1005
#25 CZECH REPUBLIC 997
#26 SPAIN 994
#27 SWITZERLAND 994
#28 BELGIUM 985
#29 ARGENTINA 984
#30 NORWAY 978
#31 TURKEY 962
#32 UKRAINE 955
#33 CANADA 952
#34 COLOMBIA 938
#35 BULGARIA 925
#36 VENEZUELA 908
#37 BOSNIA 879
  
liberalmenteGI Supporter
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Posted on 2018-01-11 21:28:31
Thanks for the work you put in, on many occasions.
  
linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-02-09 14:07:05
OVR POS / NT / Strength

Group A

#5 ROMANIA 1575
#6 MEXICO 1378
#10 HUNGARY 1283
#26 SPAIN 994

Group B

#3 USA 1761
#22 SWEDEN 1057
#27 SWITZERLAND 994
#33 CANADA 952

Group C

#14 FINLAND 1184
#16 RUSSIA 1160
#21 SLOVENIA 1087
#23 ITALY 1026
#35 BULGARIA 925

Group D

#2 SLOVAKIA 1781
#4 GERMANY 1705
#25 CZECH REPUBLIC 997
#31 TURKEY 962

Group E

#15 FRANCE 1162
#18 DENMARK 1139
#20 BRAZIL 1116
#29 ARGENTINA 984
#36 VENEZUELA 908

Group F

#7 CROATIA 1352
#11 UNITED KINGDOM 1275
#17 NETHERLANDS 1151
#19 NEW ZEALAND 1125
#37 BOSNIA 879

Group G

#1 SERBIA 1791
#9 AUSTRALIA 1302
#24 AUSTRIA 1005
#28 BELGIUM 985
#32 UKRAINE 955

Group H

#8 POLAND 1338
#12 IRELAND 1270
#13 PORTUGAL 1200
#30 NORWAY 978
#34 COLOMBIA 938

  
Eltito
Posts: 442
Posted on 2018-02-09 15:16:01
Interesting topic, agreed that is complicated to feel relative power of every NT due to theirs previous brillant/bad performances. This gives and idea of "recent" NT power not the "actual" ones but that's always nice to know.

Many thanks for the job, really appreciated
  
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Posted on 2018-02-09 16:15:32
Awesome work here linkleo911. Paints an interesting picture. However, using these to predict future performance can be tricky. A change in NT managers can have a big impact that won't show up immediately in the rankings.
  
linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-02-09 18:14:07
I know it all. But it is always cool to make rankings...

I want to see how many qualifiers I can predict with it and analyze why some teams do not get in WC Finals.
  
linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-02-09 18:19:35
For example, I am sure that Italy is better than signaled in the ranking. On the other hand, Australia is in bad streak due to bot formations.
  
linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-02-23 15:15:11
linkleo911 wrote:

OVR POS / NT / Strength

Group A

#5 ROMANIA 1575
#6 MEXICO 1378
#10 HUNGARY 1283
#26 SPAIN 994

Group B

#3 USA 1761
#22 SWEDEN 1057
#27 SWITZERLAND 994
#33 CANADA 952

(...)

Group D

#2 SLOVAKIA 1781
#4 GERMANY 1705
#25 CZECH REPUBLIC 997
#31 TURKEY 962



Well, it has predicted 4 of 6 qualifiers until now. Romania was really bad in this cycle, losing all games and Spain played well and achieved qualification in a bot win over Hungary; Sweden have lost to Canada and it has cost the qualification (in my opinion); Slovakia and Germany were easy to predict...

Let's see what we will have in the other groups!
  
linkleo911
Posts: 1831
Posted on 2018-03-16 14:28:20
Ending with a 10/16. Not so bad...

Romania and Australia had awful performances while Spain, Ukraine, Italy and Portugal were big "surprises". Switzerland and Brazil were not entirely surprises as I expected both teams to fight for a place against Sweden and Denmark, respectively.
  
 
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