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WHO SHOULD MANAGE UK NT SEASON 33
 
gooseygooseygander
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Posted on 2020-06-04 23:50:18
Nothing wrong with good banter, however - and Stevie76 is up their with the best of them.

I do agree that people are too easily offended these days and thoroughly enjoyed Douglas Murray's 'The Madness of Crowds'.

  
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Posted on 2020-06-04 23:55:08
gooseygooseygander wrote:

Nothing wrong with good banter, however - and Stevie76 is up their with the best of them.

I do agree that people are too easily offended these days and thoroughly enjoyed Douglas Murray's 'The Madness of Crowds'.



Kudos to yourself for keeping the forums active/interesting

  
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Posted on 2020-06-05 10:28:11
Just to clarify how the Danish NT has developed over the years.

First of all, we have had almost only one coach. I think the few coaches in DK have just accepted that I am the only one willing to spend the time and effort to manage a team and an NT.

Second, Denmark has benefitted from good coaches in the beginning of GI and have a base of balanced players. Especially players like:

OL Laurits Hemmingsen
WR Daniel Kristoffersen
QB Kjeld Gotfredsen
CB Henrik Jørgensen
K Milan Loest

Those 5 are all on BOT teams and will remain there for a long time since no one really joins GI and therefore BOT teams are not replaced.

Third, there has been a great job in developing great players - some of whom will retire in the coming seasons or have their physicals lowered by time. I thank the other coaches for developing these players and building great teams with Danish players - Ledilot, Melchett, Icono04 & Baldrikk. Also VerbalKlint who BOT'ed earlier. We PM'ed together about prospects and have taken the responsibility to deliver players to the NT. Players like OL Peter Dinesen and OL Erik Andersen cost a ton of money but are essential players on both sides of the line.

Fourth, I manage my own team and the NT with scoring points for each skill, position and player. Always looking for that little improvement. Scoring each player by position from 0-100 gives me a chance to see if a players build is suited for the tactics, I deploy.

Fifth - We run. No S*** Sherlock. It is the way to play in 'modern' GI. Passing is fine, but you will have the threat of an INT and since I work within giving advice on Risk Management, I never will accept a risk that can be mitigated.

And regards to defensive formations. 3-4, 3-5, 4-4, 4-3, 5-3, 5-4 or 5-2 formations all are successfull against the run. That is if the GI dice have rolled in your favour.

So who should be the next UK manager? I could throw my ballot in the bowl, but you would loose once or twice to Denmark if push comes to shove. I think that the UK team needs a coach that is willing to use some hours looking through the team and finding the best players for each position. Either by blindly assigning positions or using a spreadsheet as I do does not matter. Just having the time to set the best formation and then learn from the games. Denmark changes and tweaked throught the WC and we got better and better.

So just find one coach. Stick to it and support the unlucky bastard and support in finding great players (I do have one or two available) and then just stick to it.

Chin up, mates!
  

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gooseygooseygander
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Posted on 2020-06-05 14:23:10
Thanks to SrednaD for a most helpful post.

'Congratulations' to Denmark on a well-deserved world cup triumph.

I would happily accept the return of Danelaw if it meant more world cup trophies - and good Danish bacon!

He is right about passing - when you attempt to pass, three things can happen and two of them are bad!



  
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Posted on 2020-06-05 17:18:16
Yep ..... Running makes you INVINCIBLE !!

Wait .... what's that ? .... Denmark LOST 2 games in Qualifying when they only ran and the other team had a bit of passing in there ? AND they were at Home ( with advantage) in those 2 games ?
AND they lost a game in the group stage of WC to a passing team ? ( no offence
meant Sredna just an example being used )
But... But...But ....How did that happen ??
'COS OF GI AND IT'S DICE ROLLS !!!

We all know running can be strong .... but it does NOT guarantee that you win !!
  
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Posted on 2020-06-05 17:39:30
stevie76 wrote:

Yep ..... Running makes you INVINCIBLE !!

Wait .... what's that ? .... Denmark LOST 2 games in Qualifying when they only ran and the other team had a bit of passing in there ? AND they were at Home ( with advantage) in those 2 games ?
AND they lost a game in the group stage of WC to a passing team ? ( no offence
meant Sredna just an example being used )
But... But...But ....How did that happen ??
'COS OF GI AND IT'S DICE ROLLS !!!

We all know running can be strong .... but it does NOT guarantee that you win !!



Pretty much, in a nutshell, this is as accurate as you can get. The post from Sredna is spot on, put your best 11 defense out there and run the ball, then sit back and blow on the dice a bit. Can you win with passing mixed in, yep, but you have 2 bad things that can happen on every down, that can't when you run the ball. Run baby run
  

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gooseygooseygander
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Posted on 2020-06-05 17:56:38
Running does not make you invincible.

But, all other things being equal, the way Grid-Iron operates at the moment, a team that runs every offensive play has a higher probability of winning than a team that adopts any other offensive mix.

Witness the success of Scandinavian Nightmare and Scottish Raiders last season - teams that typically ran 80-100% every game last season.

I should know. I began last season using a realistic offence, to keep the defence guessing and honest, and a 4-3 defence that can cope equally well against the run and the pass. Yet, I got beaten by teams that ran the ball every play and used 5-3 defences. In the real world, this only works up to the high school level when one team has players that are much better, bigger and faster than the other team and simply bulldozes over them. In a roughly equal match up at college or pro level, any offence that ran the ball every play would be stuffed by a defence that brings the strong safety up to the line and puts 8 defenders in the box. A team that used a 5-3 defence would be shredded by short passes released quickly from a 3-step drop.

Thus, running every play does not guarantee victory, but it gives you the best possible chance in Grid-Iron.

To suggest otherwise is to be disingenuous.
  
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Posted on 2020-06-05 18:04:51
gooseygooseygander wrote:

Running does not make you invincible.

But, all other things being equal, the way Grid-Iron operates at the moment, a team that runs every offensive play has a higher probability of winning than a team that adopts any other offensive mix.

Witness the success of Scandinavian Nightmare and Scottish Raiders last season - teams that typically ran 80-100% every game last season.

I should know. I began last season using a realistic offence, to keep the defence guessing and honest, and a 4-3 defence that can cope equally well against the run and the pass. Yet, I got beaten by teams that ran the ball every play and used 5-3 defences. In the real world, this only works up to the high school level when one team has players that are much better, bigger and faster than the other team and simply bulldozes over them. In a roughly equal match up at college or pro level, any offence that ran the ball every play would be stuffed by a defence that brings the strong safety up to the line and puts 8 defenders in the box. A team that used a 5-3 defence would be shredded by short passes released quickly from a 3-step drop.

Thus, running every play does not guarantee victory, but it gives you the best possible chance in Grid-Iron.

To suggest otherwise is to be disingenuous.



.... I AM SCOTTISH RAIDERS !! ( you didn't overlook this right? )

HAHAHAHAHAHA

  
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Posted on 2020-06-05 18:27:50
This has given me a right good chuckle

Using the term " I should know" whilst you're trying to educate me on the strengths of the run game .... and then you use MY TEAM as an example of what I should be looking at ?


HAHAHA Thanks m8 !! That genuinely gave me a right good laugh which was needed

  
gooseygooseygander
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Posted on 2020-06-05 19:38:39
Whether I realised the 'truth' about the running game 5 minutes ago or 5 seasons ago does not change the validity of my point.

Whether I used the example of the Scottish Raiders (Stevie76's team of course) or other top teams that have done well grinding it out on the ground does not change the validity of my point that most of the best teams run the ball most of the time.

Anyone who disagrees is welcome to ditch the running game, switch to the passing game and prove me wrong!

For the sake of argument, I classify any team that runs more than 70% of the time as a running team, any team that passes more than 70% of the time as a passing team, any team in-between these extremes runs a mixed offence.