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AbCat
Posts: 2510
Posted on 2021-02-16 23:53:52
hemoroid wrote:

There were 4 cheaters in our league, one got banned last season, 2 got banned late this season, the last one will hopefully get banned before the next season start, the sooner the better for everyone.

Don't worry about me you cheating cockroach, I played in the Top Division in my 4th season, how long did it take for you to get there? You'd better worry about your old declining players that you were paying the second highest wages in the game and still got destroyed in the AFLC.



Please can you stop now?

There's a difference between calling out cheating (or your suspicions of it), and using that as a pretext for harassment.

Thanks in advance.
  
hemoroid
Posts: 88
Joined: 2019-10-27
Posted on 2021-02-17 0:23:59
Sorry but this is a necessary evil. Letting other community members know who they are dealing with is the least we can do until admins take action.
In the last round you have witnessed the same cheating method spread to your own league, it will only get worse if we don’t fight it and this game will become unplayable.
  
AbCat
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Posted on 2021-02-17 1:02:08
While we're here though, there is zero chance that Monty Python cheated here. It's just a couple of disgruntled Serbian managers botting at annoying times, either as a means of griefing long-term rivals, or just being careless.

He'd have needed to establish a team seven years before starting his own team, and learned a new language (the managers of the Ravens clubs can be seen conversing fluently on their national forum). There's no suspicious transfers on Monty's part, and no other evidence of any wrongdoing.

The Ravens have been around in some form in Serbia since 2009. They originally walked out of the game back in 2012 because they got sick of waiting for the V3 (There's a thread somewhere in the archives called Serbian Community Says Goodbye) before re-establishing themselves. Klek Ravens

It's sad that their griefing or lack of care has caused this chain reaction. Sad also, that such play is almost impossible to prevent in online games.
  
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Posted on 2021-02-17 1:30:46
AbCat wrote:

there is zero chance that Monty Python cheated here... There's no suspicious transfers on Monty's part, and no other evidence of any wronggoing



Thank you very much for helping me reveal my innocence!
  

Timeo Danaos et Dona Ferentes!

hemoroid
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Posted on 2021-02-17 9:11:26
AbCat wrote:

While we're here though, there is zero chance that Monty Python cheated here. It's just a couple of disgruntled Serbian managers botting at annoying times, either as a means of griefing long-term rivals, or just being careless.



It's your right to be naive but the facts seem to contradict your view. The two Ravens teams only ever played bot against each other and against Athens H&S, and it was never at random times it was precisely when the other team needed the win, how so?

AbCat wrote:

He'd have needed to establish a team seven years before starting his own team, and learned a new language (the managers of the Ravens clubs can be seen conversing fluently on their national forum). There's no suspicious transfers on Monty's part, and no other evidence of any wrongdoing.

The Ravens have been around in some form in Serbia since 2009. They originally walked out of the game back in 2012 because they got sick of waiting for the V3 (There's a thread somewhere in the archives called Serbian Community Says Goodbye) before re-establishing themselves. Klek Ravens



I never claimed that all the teams involved were controlled by the same cheater. There was most likely a serbian cheater in control of two teams (Klek and Petrovgrad Ravens) and the cheating cockroach above in control of Athens H&S. These two have teamed up in season 33 probably out of desperation because the team that was dominating the league (who ended up being a cheater as well) was kicking their asses season after season.

Both Ravens teams were active and finishing in the top of the league every season. Klek even won the cup in season 28 and 32 and Petrovgrad was going to win the league this season. If he no longer enjoyed the game and it's development he should've just quit not ruin the game for other users!

AbCat wrote:


It's sad that their griefing or lack of care has caused this chain reaction. Sad also, that such play is almost impossible to prevent in online games.


It was premeditated cheating not "lack of care", admins have all the tools to sanction this form of cheating, they have access to the communication between the teams involved and the tactics set for each game.
  
AbCat
Posts: 2510
Posted on 2021-02-17 12:10:58
So you're saying they teamed up, based on each team botting against him once? So by that logic, are you in collaboration with all the teams that have botted against yourself too?

The whole thing makes literally no sense. It's just wild speculation and toxic name-calling.
  
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Posted on 2021-02-17 12:29:56
AbCat wrote:

So you're saying they teamed up, based on each team botting against him once? So by that logic, are you in collaboration with all the teams that have botted against yourself too?

The whole thing makes literally no sense. It's just wild speculation and toxic name-calling.



So I am by that logic, colluding with Stevie as I botted my defence in the first game we played in season 34? Or was that my mistake - and would Hemoroid be ranting about that if Stevie had won the TD?
  

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AbCat
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Posted on 2021-02-17 12:50:35
SrednaD wrote:

AbCat wrote:

So you're saying they teamed up, based on each team botting against him once? So by that logic, are you in collaboration with all the teams that have botted against yourself too?

The whole thing makes literally no sense. It's just wild speculation and toxic name-calling.



So I am by that logic, colluding with Stevie as I botted my defence in the first game we played in season 34? Or was that my mistake - and would Hemoroid be ranting about that if Stevie had won the TD?



Yes. Not only that, but I'm a cheater too, because way back in season 14, Vesterbro Vikings botted against me in the first game of the season, which meant I won my first title.
  
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Posted on 2021-02-17 12:54:16
AbCat wrote:

SrednaD wrote:

AbCat wrote:

So you're saying they teamed up, based on each team botting against him once? So by that logic, are you in collaboration with all the teams that have botted against yourself too?

The whole thing makes literally no sense. It's just wild speculation and toxic name-calling.



So I am by that logic, colluding with Stevie as I botted my defence in the first game we played in season 34? Or was that my mistake - and would Hemoroid be ranting about that if Stevie had won the TD?



Yes. Not only that, but I'm a cheater too, because way back in season 14, Vesterbro Vikings botted against me in the first game of the season, which meant I won my first title.



So you and kong_kaj had a bromance going there... Nice. I knew / know Kong_kaj as he was one of the Danish coaches that helped me in the beginning. Never knew that it was all a smoke-screen for your season 14 championship...

Nice planning. Well done...
  

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If you are ever feeling down, just know that neither of Dorfenschmirtz's parents showed up to his birth.

hemoroid
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Joined: 2019-10-27
Posted on 2021-02-17 13:15:20
AbCat wrote:

So you're saying they teamed up, based on each team botting against him once? So by that logic, are you in collaboration with all the teams that have botted against yourself too?



That has happened exactly zero times! Every time I played against bot tactics the teams were bots. How many times did it happen to you since you're playing, let me guess, probably never or at least not very often. Given that, what are the chances of that happening TWICE in the same season and right when you needed it.

If something like that were to happen to me I would post screenshots of my tactics, share my messaging history and personally write to the admins to check if I did anything wrong. But it won't happen because active teams don't just randomly throw games!
  
 
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