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Star Wars discussion *SPOILERS AHOY*
 
icthalian
Posts: 3437
Posted on 2015-12-18 0:42:37
If anyone would like to discuss The Force Awakens, for the sake of those who have yet to experience the awesomeness, let's keep it in here please.

Personally, I thought it was absolutely fantastic.
  
campuscodi
Posts: 1531
Posted on 2015-12-19 21:19:46
Somebody spoiled it to me via a Reddit comment.

Lucky me I didn't believe him because the idea looked absurd to me. Apparently it was true.

Bless my own ignorance!
  
icthalian
Posts: 3437
Posted on 2015-12-19 21:34:57
I hate people like that... I'd be interested to know what the spoiler was?
  
campuscodi
Posts: 1531
Posted on 2015-12-20 12:49:11
icthalian wrote:

I hate people like that... I'd be interested to know what the spoiler was?



He told that Han would get gutted
  
paulo187
Posts: 4937
Posted on 2015-12-20 14:31:37
Ford said he only wanted to be in this film, so assuming you had heard that from anywhere then it was somewhat obvious he would die. Luckily that doesn't spoil the actual film too much though (at least I didn't think so)
  
icthalian
Posts: 3437
Posted on 2015-12-20 16:19:25
paulo187 wrote:

Ford said he only wanted to be in this film, so assuming you had heard that from anywhere then it was somewhat obvious he would die. Luckily that doesn't spoil the actual film too much though (at least I didn't think so)



Yeah, I'd heard that too and was fully expecting him to get written out. I think it was handled well, and puts Kylo Ren well on the way to being a great villain (although I'm still expecting a 'redemption' storyline for him).
  
Rocky Solo
Posts: 10669
Posted on 2015-12-20 16:22:08
I knew it was coming, but I didnt want it to

Awesome movie. My only gripe was the fact that Leia cuddled Rey after Hans death. Surely it should have been Chewie, who just walked by
  
campuscodi
Posts: 1531
Posted on 2015-12-20 20:27:28
Rocky Solo wrote:

I knew it was coming, but I didnt want it to

Awesome movie. My only gripe was the fact that Leia cuddled Rey after Hans death. Surely it should have been Chewie, who just walked by



She was probably her daughter... just saying... if you ever read SW books from the former SW Expanded Universe.
  
icthalian
Posts: 3437
Posted on 2015-12-20 20:34:44
campuscodi wrote:

Rocky Solo wrote:

I knew it was coming, but I didnt want it to

Awesome movie. My only gripe was the fact that Leia cuddled Rey after Hans death. Surely it should have been Chewie, who just walked by



She was probably her daughter... just saying... if you ever read SW books from the former SW Expanded Universe.



Neither Leia nor Han mentioned a daughter at any point (and why would Han not know he had a daughter who was mysteriously missing for years when he finds the mystery girl in the MF?). Seems to me the timing of Luke disappearing after Ben went dark side ties in too well with Rey being left on Jakku too well for her not to be Luke's daughter.

Nothing in the EU is canon since Disney bought the franchise, so the fact they had twins in The Last Command doesn't dictate on this version of the universe.
  
paulo187
Posts: 4937
Posted on 2015-12-20 20:54:51
campuscodi wrote:

Rocky Solo wrote:

I knew it was coming, but I didnt want it to

Awesome movie. My only gripe was the fact that Leia cuddled Rey after Hans death. Surely it should have been Chewie, who just walked by



She was probably her daughter... just saying... if you ever read SW books from the former SW Expanded Universe.



Not technically correct. Rey isn't in the expanded universe (EU). In the EU Han and Leia have 3 kids; Anakin, Jacen and Jaina (the latter 2 being twins). In this film they have Ben (who happens to share the same name as Luke and Mara Jade's son from the EU).

It is possible that Rey and Ben are meant to be twins, or at least brother and sister, but the better option I think having seen the new film is that she is Luke's daughter (making her Ben's cousin). There are numerous clues that link them (the Skywalker lightsaber calling to her more than anything else), but these could of course be there as decoys. For me, she has to be Luke's daughter.

Other major talking point is 'who is Snoke?'. Had the same discussion with Icthalian already and we both think it's Plageuis, but I have seen theories that also point to it being Palpatine. Can't see it being Palpatine myself, he's been the head bad guy for 6 films already and with new characters being brought into this set of films, I think it's a chance to pick someone else (enter Plageuis, Sith Lord and master of Sidious, aka Palpatine).
  
 
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