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Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)mrcasadoGI Supporter
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Posted on 2018-01-18 12:41:58
I think it needs to be tweaked a little. There should be home advantage, I agree with that, but the advantage seems to be large in a lot of the higher divisions. The best teams should be able to win(not always though)

Can the advantage be reduced?
  

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Posted on 2018-01-18 14:08:58
Administrator wrote:

Home field advantage only affects league games and AFLC (group stage) games.



I think it is a bit unfair to have HFA in AFLC games. I think it is ok when you have a competition in two rounds (home and away matches against all teams) but in AFLC we play each team only once.

The results are different when you face a worse team away and a better team at home in comparison then playing a worse team at home and a better team away. (I hope you can understand my point...)
  
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Posted on 2018-01-18 14:42:36
mrcasado wrote:

I think it needs to be tweaked a little. There should be home advantage, I agree with that, but the advantage seems to be large in a lot of the higher divisions. The best teams should be able to win(not always though)

Can the advantage be reduced?



Personally I think it should be reversed for next season so we can see the full impact of the BMI changes before they go messing around with HFA. Frankly that's what should have been done in the first place.

By changing BMI and adding HFA I suspect they've inadvertently gone too far, especially at the top levels where, after implementation of BMI, teams are largely equal.
  
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Posted on 2018-01-18 14:43:22
I quite like it how it is.
  
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Posted on 2018-01-18 14:46:25
Administrator wrote:

Home field advantage only affects league games and AFLC (group stage) games.



Again, thanks for the clarification. Always good to hear facts from you guys.

I agree with many others, though, that the HFA goes too far. You don't have to drastically change it. There should be an Advantage playing at home. It's the case in the NFL, too (3 points, the bookies tell you, and that's a lot in real football).

But if you tone it down a little bit, like, say 5 percent, it would make the game more enjoyable imo. I think the middle ground between how it was before the Engine update (where there was no HFA whatsoever, if anything, there was an advantage for the away team, which is odd) and how it is now would be perfect. Good teams beating solid teams on the road (most of the time), but when it's solid against solid, good against good or great against great, then there's an Advantage if you play at home.
  
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Posted on 2018-01-18 17:00:20
When player advantages across the board ( talent, physicals, skill level, Int, cons and stamina ) are consistently being overcome by nothing more than Home Field advantage then it's definitely a major problem. Far too often I have witnessed an entire team full of positive mismatches, on both sides of the ball, not only lose but even struggle to make it a game. That's f'd up !! Especially when it's happening consistently.

Admins - Have you even tried to consider both sides of the coin when it comes to Home field and the advantages and DISADVANTAGES that this can bring ?
For example ...... My teams at home against a much stronger team, who races into a 35 point lead over me in the first 20 minutes. They hold advantages across the board in talent, skills, STAMINA etc etc. I'm very curious to understand how you think that this scenario would, more often than not, result in my team then going on a ridiculous 28 - 35 point unanswered run and taking the game down to the last few mins ?? Once in a while ?.... yes ...... consistently ? .... I think not !!
My point being, would home field really be an advantage in this situation when your teams fans would be at the least going nuts, booing you etc or worse yet those fans would be WALKING OUT ??
For me personally, home field and any advantages it may bring are far too complex to be recreated in such a simplistic game.
In my humble opinion You'd be much better served focusing on the effects of the weather on games rather than any home field advantage. Now that you have implemented a running game, wouldn't it be nice if teams were far more hesitant to set tactics to 90/90/90 passing when it's SNOWING ??
With weather, rather than home field, affecting games then it may pay dividends over the season for teams to have built a more balanced attack rather than nothing more than a QB/WR 'darkwing' combo, It would also lead to a more personal touch being placed on each and every team, which in my opinion would add so much more to the game than any home field advantage could ever bring.

......... just my 2 cents
  
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Posted on 2018-01-18 19:05:20
Well while they may be better going for tactics I do feel like we need to applaud them for the change and figure out what we want. I also think you are over selling how big a deal it is as stats most certainly do matter. It is possible to win away games and not just with luck- granted we have had very different experiences with away matches thus far.

I mean myself, amongst others, definitely want home field advantage of some sort. Generally with it toned down a bit but how much?

What do we want the general odds of victory of two equal sides to be (55-45, 60-40)? Whst about unequal sides? I feel like that could instructive for them. I would also applaud them for making changes and hopefully the data the last few seasons has provided will help them tweak it to be better.
  

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Posted on 2018-01-18 19:45:39
Christy wrote:

Well while they may be better going for tactics I do feel like we need to applaud them for the change and figure out what we want. I also think you are over selling how big a deal it is as stats most certainly do matter. It is possible to win away games and not just with luck- granted we have had very different experiences with away matches thus far.

I mean myself, amongst others, definitely want home field advantage of some sort. Generally with it toned down a bit but how much?

What do we want the general odds of victory of two equal sides to be (55-45, 60-40)? Whst about unequal sides? I feel like that could instructive for them. I would also applaud them for making changes and hopefully the data the last few seasons has provided will help them tweak it to be better.



Something between 50-55% is ok. 60-75% (like AFLC and some Top Divisions) is not ok. I personally think they changed too much at once (BMI and HFA) and the cumulative effect of those changes is overpowering everything else.

I like the BMI change. I like the changes to the running game. The HFA needs work.
  
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Posted on 2018-01-18 20:40:53
stevie76 wrote:

For example ...... My teams at home against a much stronger team, who races into a 35 point lead over me in the first 20 minutes. They hold advantages across the board in talent, skills, STAMINA etc etc. I'm very curious to understand how you think that this scenario would, more often than not, result in my team then going on a ridiculous 28 - 35 point unanswered run and taking the game down to the last few mins ?? Once in a while ?.... yes ...... consistently ? .... I think not !!

That sounds more like the relax rule. As it is not an uncommon scenerio.
  
linkleo911
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Posted on 2018-01-18 22:11:39
projectrracing wrote:

stevie76 wrote:

For example ...... My teams at home against a much stronger team, who races into a 35 point lead over me in the first 20 minutes. They hold advantages across the board in talent, skills, STAMINA etc etc. I'm very curious to understand how you think that this scenario would, more often than not, result in my team then going on a ridiculous 28 - 35 point unanswered run and taking the game down to the last few mins ?? Once in a while ?.... yes ...... consistently ? .... I think not !!

That sounds more like the relax rule. As it is not an uncommon scenerio.

The same happened to me in the last season. Everybody here told me it was not relax rule...
  
 
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