Radu27 wrote: I have checked a couple of my fellows compatriots and they don't have supporter accounts, not even ultimate supporter accounts and still, their teams are active after a long period of time. Why is that?

This is true. I have seen it as well. Here is an example: Podesheni Team and Here is another example: Iasi Sevens

The Podesheni team was last active September 25 and Iasi Sevens since October 26.

I also did a very quick 1 minute search in North America and found one in D.II that was last active October 20 here: Twenty Fives

I wonder if the server move had anything to do with this bug? I also wonder how many accounts are being reflected as "active" when in reality they are inactive like these.

Yes.
This is what i found also. Perhaps if all teams will go BOOT then we will be left with 200+ teams and the Admins could close some divisions that are not important anymore and reduce the number of BOOT teams, but that will mean less Cup games, so less income.

The sad part is that ASIA has 2 teams, AFRICA has 3 teams and OCEANIA has also 3 teams.

hoospack wrote: I'm surprised more people haven't taken notice of this. Especially given the fact that the "inactivity bug" potentially occurred during negotiations for community buy-out of the game.....

This bug was aknowledged awhile ago and happened when we moved servers.
It will be fixed, but it's not a priority, as the owner, again, is in bad health (took the turn for the worse at the end of the year).

And don't even go into the "happened during negotiations" teritory.
All accounts have "last login" data and as you noticed this wasn't ever tempered with. And if it was, it would be more than obvious the minute the community would have access to the database.
Even better - anyone can go and count the active users by hand or by scrapping the data, if anyone would want to have a correct data.

Owner gave all the data the interested parties wanted (financial, active users, even pieces of source code for the project...). And all the data was 100% correct, current and honest.

So, again, please, don't even go there. Thank you!

shmertnickname wrote: smells fishy

Do explain how, please.

All the data was sent to buy-out group well before this bug occurred (again, bug occured when the game was switching servers).
A couple of months before actually.

The price was set then, it was based on the data that was available then (not on "how many users there will be if and when the buy-out community actually decides to go for it" ).
Also it was said well in advance that the price will rise for xxxxx amount if the owner will need to pay and take care of the server switch.
The owner then waited for months without any feedback from the buy-out initiative. There wasn't even any progress report (apart from few PM's with Ewout).
The guys didn't even inform the supporters among the users.

So, please do tell, what could the owner gain from this?
We are all ears (eyes) here. Because we all here are sick and tired of these accusations regarding the buy out. First, the owner was to blame (after waiting for half a year for anyone to actually do something), and now there will be "scam" accusations as well?

So, come on. Explain what the owner could gain from this (then or now), or forever hold your piss (yes, piss, not peace).

Jesus, the nerves on some people.

SrednaD wrote: Administrator wrote: shmertnickname wrote: smells fishy Do explain how, please. All the data was sent to buy-out group well before this bug occurred (again, bug occured when the game was switching servers). A couple of months before actually. The price was set then, it was based on the data that was available then (not on "how many users there will be if and when the buy-out community actually decides to go for it" ). Also it was said well in advance that the price will rise for xxxxx amount if the owner will need to pay and take care of the server switch. The owner then waited for months without any feedback from the buy-out initiative. There wasn't even any progress report (apart from few PM's with Ewout). The guys didn't even inform the supporters among the users. So, please do tell, what could the owner gain from this? We are all ears (eyes) here. Because we all here are sick and tired of these accusations regarding the buy out. First, the owner was to blame (after waiting for half a year for anyone to actually do something), and now there will be "scam" accusations as well? So, come on. Explain what the owner could gain from this (then or now), or forever hold your piss (yes, piss, not peace). Jesus, the nerves on some people. A great deal of the calculations for the future economy of the buy-out was based on scraping data for active users. If the 'bug' was present at the scraping of those numbers, it is clear that the buy-out's calculations for expected profit was based on wrong data. That would have been a killer for any buy-out as funds where needed to develop the game and try to upgrade / fix this game. I am so happy to have had productive conversations with the buy-out team and SOOOO happy that no money was transfered. *phew* Some people wrote: Jesus, the nerves on some people.

It depends on when your projections were made.
Again, the bug appeared with the new server.

And, if it would be requested, owner would give you the updated numbers (based on login dates not the buggy numbers) - ask Ewout that was communicating with him. He never give you guys any troubles with giving information.
He wouldn't drop the price (as it wasn't really his fault this dragged out for half a year was it?), but he would give you the numbers.

Anything else?


Edit: And if you already scrapped the data using the "last login" date, you had no problem and correct numbers. There was and is not any bug with "last login" dates. Only with closing the clubs down.