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Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)mrcasadoGI Supporter
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Posted on 2010-09-01 21:18:53
stoo12009 wrote:

mrcasado wrote:

jespernohr wrote:

It would probably make it very complicated to have a bonus system, but I guess it could be fun with a "shooting stars" system, where there would be some kind of bonus to beat certain "star" teams. Kinda like they have in poker tournaments.

Another options was to have a bonus factor based on the team you beat division level.



Ill tell you what, if we can agree on a bonus factor depending on where u r and who you beat (division wise), i will make it happen.

Drop me a pm with your thoughts



how about these changes to rankings formula?
1.
make the points for league wins Vs human based on # seasons opponent team has been in the game – this will represent the differing difficulties of divisions
2.
cup wins bonus - keep the same points allocation, but in addition give a + (divisional difference x 100) bonus for human cup wins - so a div.5 team that beats a TD team gains an extra 400 points for that big cup win

proposed new formula;

(league wins x 100)
+
(Sum(Seasons each Human Opp defeated has been in game x 100 ) )
+
(points scored x 2)
-
(points conceded x 2)
-
(division x 100) TD is 0
+
(Cup rounds won x 50)
+
(Human cup wins x 250)
+
(For cup match wins Vs Human -> difference in Div levels x 100)



My head hurts reading that

Would it be safe to say that number of seasons involved would be up to the end of the previous season.

E.g, you and I have been here since season 1, 5 seasons, as number 6 hasnt finished.

Jesper also mentioned about the divisional handicap increasing, so instead of 100, maybe 250
  

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stoo12009
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Posted on 2010-09-02 1:38:15
mrcasado wrote:


My head hurts reading that

Would it be safe to say that number of seasons involved would be up to the end of the previous season.

E.g, you and I have been here since season 1, 5 seasons, as number 6 hasnt finished.

Jesper also mentioned about the divisional handicap increasing, so instead of 100, maybe 250



i think you could take current season to be the number, this is my sixth season, so beating me in the league will net you 600 points and visa versa. with this you wouldn't need the div. handicap as this should take care of the divisional discrepancies.
players competing and winning in a league of veteran established teams should have a higher ranking than for ecample, a div.5 team that's beating a league of 1st season players. no offence to the lower level, starting teams, but it shouldn't really be the same points system as such..
also, it would put into perspective the divisions from hell and highlight the talent therein, so a competitive div. of 5-7 teams that have been good and fighting amonst themselves for 3-5 seasons but have never escaped that division would get a position on the rankings reflective of how big their wins and positions are.
  
jespernohr
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Posted on 2010-09-02 10:48:04
I think it is important that it doesn't become over complicated. Thank about it needs to work in Season 21 as well The further we progress into the lifetime of the game the smaller the difference between the teams will be. Havana Marlins is a very good example of this.
  
tingting
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Posted on 2010-09-02 13:13:58
jespernohr wrote:

I think it is important that it doesn't become over complicated. Thank about it needs to work in Season 21 as well The further we progress into the lifetime of the game the smaller the difference between the teams will be. Havana Marlins is a very good example of this.



Yes not too complicated but surely the rankings must reflect that the teams in the top divisions must be at the top of the rankings as in the FIFA rankings in football. No disrespect to the 3rd, 4th, & 5th tier teams all of which may be very good teams & may well be able to hold their own in the TD, but countries like Russia, America, Rep of Ireland, Paraguay, etc are not above England, Argentina, etc in the rankings
  
jespernohr
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Posted on 2010-09-02 14:04:35
tingting wrote:

jespernohr wrote:

I think it is important that it doesn't become over complicated. Thank about it needs to work in Season 21 as well The further we progress into the lifetime of the game the smaller the difference between the teams will be. Havana Marlins is a very good example of this.



Yes not too complicated but surely the rankings must reflect that the teams in the top divisions must be at the top of the rankings as in the FIFA rankings in football. No disrespect to the 3rd, 4th, & 5th tier teams all of which may be very good teams & may well be able to hold their own in the TD, but countries like Russia, America, Rep of Ireland, Paraguay, etc are not above England, Argentina, etc in the rankings


When the game have been levelled out and the true TD teams are in the top then it will work. Right now there have been a tendency towards those that started early have had an advantage. This advantage is almost gone now. If you have read The previous posts, the. You would have known that I have suggested a bigger divisional multiplier, which would help the TD teams staying in the top of the rankings.

I just don't like Stoo's suggestion of having a "how long a team have been the game" multiplier, since a teams strength is no longer an indication of it's strength. Plenty examples of that.

For the cup multiplier I would suggest a bonus depending on what division level teams meet each other. If a division 4 beats a top division team they should a bigger bonus than a team beating an equal or lower division cup opponent.
  
jespernohr
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Posted on 2010-09-02 14:05:35
tingting wrote:

jespernohr wrote:

I think it is important that it doesn't become over complicated. Thank about it needs to work in Season 21 as well The further we progress into the lifetime of the game the smaller the difference between the teams will be. Havana Marlins is a very good example of this.



Yes not too complicated but surely the rankings must reflect that the teams in the top divisions must be at the top of the rankings as in the FIFA rankings in football. No disrespect to the 3rd, 4th, & 5th tier teams all of which may be very good teams & may well be able to hold their own in the TD, but countries like Russia, America, Rep of Ireland, Paraguay, etc are not above England, Argentina, etc in the rankings


Ps. I don't think you can compare FIFA ranking to what we are trying to do.
  
Odball
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Posted on 2010-09-02 15:43:02
lots of work for someone, maybe it should be updated every 2 weeks or monthly.
  
jespernohr
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Posted on 2010-09-02 15:52:47
Odball wrote:

lots of work for someone, maybe it should be updated every 2 weeks or monthly.


That is why it is important it is fairly "simple" mathematical formula. I don't think it will ever be possible to ask one person to do more the top 3 divisions like MrC is doing at the moment.
  
stoo12009
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Posted on 2010-09-02 16:28:36
jespernohr wrote:

Odball wrote:

lots of work for someone, maybe it should be updated every 2 weeks or monthly.


That is why it is important it is fairly "simple" mathematical formula. I don't think it will ever be possible to ask one person to do more the top 3 divisions like MrC is doing at the moment.



having done it a couple of seasons back, it is very time consuming. excel is very useful for crunching through quickly, but still takes a good bit of time.

hats off to mr.C
  
Hard-core fan (ultimate supporter owner)mrcasadoGI Supporter
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Posted on 2010-09-02 22:38:38
Odball wrote:

lots of work for someone, maybe it should be updated every 2 weeks or monthly.



That makes it harder, as soon as you fall behind it becomes a nightmare to do
  

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